Crouching Dragons, Hidden Dinosaurs Part 3; Can Man, Dinosaur, Truth and Science Co-Exist?

Posted by Ken Griffith | November 1, 2014 0

Isaiah 30:6

This is God’s message about the animals of the southern desert: “The ambassadors travel through dangerous country, where lions live and where there are poisonous snakes and flying dragons. They load their donkeys and camels with expensive gifts for a nation that cannot give them any help.

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This is Part 3 of an article that almost literally would never have an end. Part 1 “Crouching Dragon, Hidden Dinosaurs-How Evolutionary Science Hides Historical Man and Dinosaur Interaction in Plain Sight” was written back in December 2011 and Part 2 was written in July, 2012. What happens is that I collect the data over time and eventually sit down and write the article. There is usually quite a bit of procrastination involved. This may be a little confusing; THIS IS PART 3 OF THE “CROUCHING” Series. Unfortunately due to the number of Photos I’ve had to split Part 3 into 3 Pages. Follow? Part 1 and 2 of the SERIES were long, single paged articles.

The theme of all three of these articles is that 1) the non-coexistence of man and animals that science now calls dinosaurs somehow became an important Darwinian meme. 2) that the potential connection between the dragons of old and dinosaurs of old should be obvious and 3) that the reason it is perhaps not so obvious is that there has been a successful campaign by the scientific paradigm and other interested parties to obscure the truth.

Why? Dinosaurs serve as an Darwinist/Materialist mascot and appear to support the idea that the world is millions of years old. There is of course a great contrast in the timescales derived from the Bible for the earth’s existence (thousands of years) and that of modern science (billions of years). The mysterious, extinct, creatures science calls dinosaurs could make even some devout Christians wonder just how they fit into a young earth and into the Genesis account and they are a cornerstone in the belief system of some who believe that dinosaurs and other evidence provide clear evidence of biblical error and scientific ignorance.

As a consequence the paradigm is supported in the way most paradigms are supported; until they are proved with overwhelming evidence to be erroneous; supporting evidence is embraced and trumpeted, contrary evidence is suppressed, ignored and/or ridiculed. This is not so much an evolution/Darwin mode of behavior—it is human behavior.

Desert Cross Sauropod
Desert Cross Sauropod
One recent case in point. Scott Wolter is a forensic geologist and host of an alternative history program on H2 called “America Unearthed”. He is willing to look at out of place artifacts that academia can tell is fake from 100,000 mile away simply because they don’t fit the paradigm. I was watching his investigation of the Tucson relics (The Desert Cross Episode) last night; a group of lead artifacts found in Arizona in 1924. This group of swords, picks, shovels and crosses were found embedded in a type of natural cement that they had to be pried out of.
The artifacts contained symbols and Roman numerals indicating that they were from 800A.D. Controversy has swirled around the objects since their discovery and the discoverer was thought by many to be a fraud. The most compelling evidence against their genuineness is an etching of a sauropod dinosaur on one of the pieces. Case closed, right?

After testing the metal, investigating the symbols and Roman letters, examining the crystalline build up which they concluded would take hundreds of years to form etc. –he concluded that the artifacts were genuine. He then chided academia for ignoring the artifacts which being pre-Columbian would have collided with the paradigm. Oh, and what of the dinosaur which had troubled him greatly?

One line.

Oh, the creature has a forked tongue and I’ve never heard of a dinosaur with a forked tongue-so we’ve decided that it is a lizard? Who is it who actually knows anything about dinosaur soft tissue including their tongues? The “lizard” marked to show the lines more clearly is shown here.

Here are a few other examples where the paradigm did not understand the words that were coming out of the mouth of history.

Ancient Ming Dynasty Chinese Landscape Painter Memorializes Some Dinosaurs

Wu Bin Bipedal Theropod?
Wu Bin Bipedal Theropod?
Chinese Master Wu Bin’s “Eighteen Arhats” sold In November, 2009 for $22 million at auction at Christie’s. Wu Bin, along with Ding Yunpeng are two of my favorite ancient Chinese ‘painters. In fact, they are the only two ancient Chinese painters that I know anything about. They could even be the same man since they are both described as “landscape painters who primarily painted landscapes and human figures”. Both were part of the Ming Dynasty and lived between 1547 – 1628 (Ding Yunpeng) and 1573-1620 (Wu Bin.) Ding Yunpeng is credited with the “Arhats” painting featuring a fully realized bipedal dinosaur which I covered in Part 2 of this article.

According to Wikipedia;

“Wu Bin was a Chinese landscape painter during the reign of the Ming Dynasty Wanli Emperor (r. 1573-1620). His specific dates of birth and death are not known.

Wu was born in Putian in the Fujian province. Wu’s style was unique, and he primarily painted landscapes and human figures.

Initially he was a high civil servant, his status was Emperor’s secretary dealing with public works. Later he became a Zen monk (that is, Ch´an Buddhism) at the Qixia Temple in Nanjing and often he depicted Buddhist monks and priest behaving as magicians, performing superstitious rituals and healing practices to satisfy requests made by religious men and women. These are colourful portraits where irony and sarcasm prevails. The 1591 handscroll entitled “The 16 Luohans” exemplifies such work.

His social name was “Wenzhong” and his nickname “Zhiyin Toutuo” means “Mendicant monk at the temple hidden by tree branches”. Some sources indicate that he died in 1627”.

The first dinosaur fossil bone found and catalogued by a scientist in North America was in 1787. Dinosaurs as a term was first coined by Sir Richard Owen in 1841. Since the word (meaning: terrible lizard) was not coined until 1841 anyone describing a living example any time prior would have used a different term such as “dragon” as was used in the Bible and many other ancient cultures, Lung in China, Sirrush and Tiamat in Babylon, Quetzalcoatlus in South America and many other purely local names.

Bipedalism in dinosaurs was not “discovered” until after 1858 when Dr. Joseph Leidy found fossilized bones of hadrosaurus and discovered that its front “legs” were much thinner than its rear legs. In later years the bipedalism of many types of dinosaurs was supported by studying dinosaur track ways where it was concluded that these dinosaurs also often balanced themselves bi-pedally by using their tails.

WU BIN Scroll “Eighteen Arhats”

Wu Bin- Theropod with Modern Versions
Wu Bin- Theropod with Modern Versions
Here’s the point; at the time Wu Bin competed his painting, according to science dinosaurs had been extinct for 65 million years. Dinosaurs as a class of creature would not be discovered, named for at least another 2 centuries.

Even if one in desperation asserted that Wu must have seen a fossil how did he also know about their mode of locomotion?

If one were to go back and look at scientific drawings of dinosaurs and bipedal dinosaurs for 50 to 100 years after discovery you will see that Wu’s painting depicts a bipedal dinosaur much more concisely than those scientists did 200 and 300 years later. The differences between his work and those of modern artists may be able to be laid to the fact that he actually knew what they looked like. Everything about his “dinosaur”; its bipedalism, the way the front arms are carried, the feet and toes of his depiction match or exceed our current knowledge about these creatures.

In the combo photo here we’ve compared the Ming Dynasty theropod depiction with drawings of theropods (including a Chinese theropod) by modern artists. One of the comparisons includes a spinosaurid, theropod to compare with the apparent “ridged” back on Wu Bin’s creature.

Now, shaking off the paradigm isn’t easy but there are is no real satisfactory- paradigm supporting answer to the question of how Wu Bin painted a bipedal dinosaur in the late 1500 or early 1600 unless he had benefited from eyewitness knowledge. As someone posted on the Chinese website “Putian-talk regarding this creature:

“Putian painter Wu Bin is not been through the Jurassic?”(translated)

No, this is one more piece out of thousands that proves that man and dinosaur coexisted. Do you understand the words that are coming out of my mouth?

This was not the only dinosaur depiction from the artwork which again was legitimized by the recent payment of $22 million for it at auction.

We can come back to Wu Bin’s painting “Eighteen Arhats” momentarily but let’s first consider the animal portrayed here in his painting “500 Ocean”. I’m guessing that that is not a perfect Google translation.

Wu Bin- 500 Ocean
Wu Bin- 500 Ocean
There are a number of conventional animal depictions here; a camel, a dog, an ox, and a sheep with a horse in the background.

Also included is a …dragon. http://www.360doc.com/content/11/0920/07/6075971_149653228.shtml

This is no ordinary “dragon”. It fits quite nicely in with all those Tang Dynasty gold dragons in museums throughout China.

Five Dinosaurs
Five Dinosaurs
Here it is on the far left. The Tang Dynasty dragons are in the center; on the right of the graphic is the famous dragon of Marduk from the Babylonian Ishtar gate. The Babylonian dragon precedes the Tang Dynasty versions by 1,000 years. Is it a coincidence that two ancient societies created nearly identical mythological dragons?

The dinosaur second from the left is Massospondylus. There were slightly built dinosaurs like Massospondylus but the dromaeosaurs were also slightly built. Dromaeosaurs include those Jurassic Park favorites; the velociraptors.

Wu Bin- Other Dinosaur?
Wu Bin- Other Dinosaur?
Wu Bin did us quite a favor with this depiction of a living dinosaur of that time. Sure it has “reptilian skin”, a long neck- belying science’s favorite misidentification as a big cat, it has a long curled tail and dinosaur like feet.

Here is the clue that Wu Bin left us to prove that this was not a fanciful or mythological or even an imaginary creature; the accurate Dromaeosaursian curved claw which he made very visible on the left front claw of the dinosaur depiction.

“Dromaeosauridae are a family of bird-like theropoddinosaurs. They were small- to medium-sized feathered carnivores that flourished in the CretaceousPeriod.

Wu Bin- Dinosaur foot detail
Wu Bin- Dinosaur foot detail
The name Dromaeosauridae means ‘running lizards’, from Greek dromeus (???????) meaning ‘runner’ and sauros (??????) meaning ‘lizard’. In informal usage they are often called raptors after Velociraptor), a term popularized by the film Jurassic Park; a few types include the term “raptor” directly in their name and have come to emphasize their supposed bird-like habits.

Dromaeosaurid fossils have been found in North America, Europe, Africa, Japan, China, Mongolia, Madagascar, Argentina, and Antarctica.[……. Like other theropods, dromaeosaurids were bipedal; that is, they walked on their hind legs. However, whereas most theropods walked with three toes contacting the ground, fossilized footprint tracks confirm that many early paravian groups, including the dromaeosaurids, held the second toe off the ground in a hyperextended position, with only the third and fourth toes bearing the weight of the animal. This is called functional didactyly. The enlarged second toe bore an unusually large, curved sickle-shaped claw (held off the ground or ‘retracted’ when walking), which is thought to have been used in capturing prey and climbing trees”…Wikipedia

Megaraptor foot detail
Megaraptor foot detail
Note: It’s not easy being a cryptozooarchaeologist. Its not even easy to spell it. Wu Bin’s dinosaur above does have a perfect sickle claw, front left and Wu took pains to highlight it.

However, it should be on the rear leg for our tentative id as a Dromaeosaurid. Certain larger dinosaurs like allosaurus and mega raptor had a curved claw in front.

Alternate views in Wu Bin Painting
Alternate views in Wu Bin Painting
Here is another section of Wu Bin’s “Eighteen Arhats”. A case can be made that these dragons also represent actual dinosaurs that were alive at the time Wu Bin painted this scene. Chinese history asserts that a number of “royal” families used “dragons” to pull chariots. It certainly possible that some of those stories described actual historical events.

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http://s8int.com/WordPress/2011/12/13/crouching-dragon-hidden-dinosaurs-how-evolutionary-science-hides-historical-man-and-dinosaur-interaction-in-plain-sight/ PART 1 OF THE SERIES

http://s8int.com/WordPress/2012/07/09/crouching-dragon-hidden-dinosaurs-part-2-exit-the-dragon-enter-the-dinosaur-why-dinosaurs-are-not-extinct-in-ancient-art-museums-around-the-world/ PART 2 OF THE SERIES

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